that didn't seem to work

[kareina]

I had posted a query for the LJ hive mind and got only are reply from one friend. Today she commented that she was disappointed that there were no new answers, and should she do a signal boost? I thought that was a good idea, noticed that I'd orginal posted it as friend's locked, and went back and edited it to be not friend's locked. While I was at it I also edited the date/time so that it would show up as now, rather than when orginally posted. However, when I did that it caused it to vanish from friends-lists. I can see it in my list of recent journal entries, but not in the list posts on my friends page, nor can clovis_t see it on his friend's list, therefore it is probably invisible to the rest of you, too. Darn it.

Therefore, if you happen to have any interest in period literature, please go directly to the original post and comment there if you have any useful suggestions for me. And if you ever want to change the date on something to make it show up now, just re-post, editing the date doesn't work the way I'd want it to...

Comments

[mamapduck.livejournal.com]

I did not post suggestions because I am uncomfortable with the premise. The idea of rewriting what really happened and what was really said bothers me way more than the original anachronism and that's why I opted not to respond.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

I agree, it is difficult--it took a bit of discussion between the three of us to become comfortable with the thought of editing it to ease the problems that the reviewers had. However, since the words were audible only to the champion (possibly the marshal and opponent were close enough, but they called the royal peers as well as the knights to the field to witness finals, and we weren't close enough to hear what she said to him then), in that respect it doesn't change anything. Besides, it is our intent to include some sort of statement that this is a story inspired by what happened on the day. I'm good with admitting that it is fiction based upon a true story...

[mamapduck.livejournal.com]

That statement makes a big difference, for me anyway. If it's marked as fiction it doesn't disturb me on that "revisionism" level. What follows is me sorting out why this bugged me. Feel free to ignore, it's just musing.

To me, the words spoken do matter and they did change things. If we accept the premise that the consort's inspiration is what helps lead the fighter to victory, the form that inspiration takes is important. The fictional account will have charming words and period and inspirational they may be... but they will not be the phrases that the lady used to stir her champion to victory. Words have power. I'm a big believer in that. It would be like saying Titus won Crown with a Dane axe. It doesn't change the fact that he won but it totally skews what tools he used to get there.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

True--it changes things for the fighter--it is only for those of us who were watching that things aren't changed, since we didn't hear what was said.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

But thank you for saying so, since I forgot to mention the part about admitting in the article that it is fiction when I typed the above (though it was certainly said in the discussions with Her Grace).

[katerit.livejournal.com]

I would be interested in the quotes used when I do my search to find period quotes. Could you send me those privately, or send me the draft of the story? I could get you quotes by Thursday in my time.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

Sure, I'll send it in e-mail.

[eliskimo.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'd be interested, too.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

Sure, send me an e-mail address and I'll send you a Word doc.

[eliskimo.livejournal.com]

eliskimo AT rogers DOT com

[kareina.livejournal.com]

Returning to this--I've finally made the time to make the changes to the article. Some of the quotes she used were period in the first place--those paragraphs didn't change. For the ones with quotes replaced with period ones I've added phrases like "While her words were for his ears alone and did not reach to the waiting crowd, it may be that what she said was something like this...". Also, despite the reviewer's complaint about the quotes not being period, I left in the one from Tolkein, since his books are such an important part of the History of the West...

[gurdymonkey.livejournal.com]

What part of I'm busier than a one armed paper hanger did you miss?

I spent four hours writing last night on stuff and anticipate having to put in several hours more tonight and the kids aren't even gonna be on the throne for two months.

[kareina.livejournal.com]

Hugs! I know you are really, really busy! No worries, and good luck accomplishing everything you want done.