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Aug. 13th, 2012 01:25 pm
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I must have done something I shouldn't have yesterday. During the second break at fighter practice I noticed that my lower back was hurting a bit, but when the other three fighters suggested we put our hats back on and do a Frostheim Imperator set I decided to participate. Never mind that having eight lives at the start of the tourney meant that I was going to have to do eight more bouts. I didn't manage to kill anyone, but I did manage to leg the knight, who had only two lives going in, which probably made it easier for one of the others to take him out. Having so many more lives than the others present meant that I was one of the last two remaining, which is why the winner decided to give me the life, so now have nine lives for next time (which is so right for someone with a cat on their coat of arms). But after that my lower back was bothering me even more than before the set, so while the other fighters relaxed in their chairs and discussed fighting and armour making, I took off my gear straight away, and did stretches while sort of participating in the conversation.

After I got home I spent some time stretching on the floor, and laying on a small foam ball that always helps back issues on the rare occasion they come up, followed by a hot shower. That helped, but sitting in the recliner while using skype to visit with [livejournal.com profile] lord_kjar made me realize that while the recliner is quite good to ease middle and upper back discomfort, it actually makes lower back issues worse. Oops.

So I took another hot shower, after yoga, rubbed on some tiger balm, and went to sleep. This morning's situps helped some, but the back still hurt, and I didn't like the idea of sitting in an office chair all day. Neither did I like the idea of sitting in the recliner. Luckily, while eating breakfast I sat down in the rocking chair, and discovered that while the recliner curves the lower back, the rocker supports it.

Therefore I took the car to the office, left a note on my door, and brought home the computer. It took a bit of effort to rearrange things (carefully!) so that I can sit in the rocker with the second monitor in a good position in front of me, the laptop on the shelf to the side, and a keyboard on a pillow in my lap, but it seems to be working. I have accomplished a fair bit of work with my data already this morning, and am just about to be done with a lunch break and return to work. My back still isn't *happy*, but there is no pain as I sit here, which is good.

Note for those of you who deal with real and/or chronic pain: You would laugh at what I have felt with this "issue"--on a scale of 1 to 10 this is probably no more than a 2 or a 3. It is only the fact that I normally never have pain at all that makes me so aware of it, and so careful with my attempts to make certain that it doesn't get worse or last any amount of time.

So, what are the likely causes, so I can avoid this next time? Well, one possibility is that I carried my own armour box from the car to the porch where we armoured up, instead of asking for help (vanity on my part!) and after practice I also carried it back (but I left out the sweaty gambeson and fighting pants to carry separately, so the box wasn't quite so heavy).

Another possibility is fighting technique itself. I felt no back pain before fighting, nor yet during first break. However, during the first break the knight pointed out that I wasn't moving my hips much, but only throwing with my arms, and so there was no power behind the shots, so even if I got lucky and hit them it wouldn't be good. So during the second set I told myself before each bout that it didn't matter if he hit me, I needed to throw shots with lots of hip behind them, and I did. They commented on the improvement, but it was after that set that I noticed the pain in the lower back. Therefore it is possible that I simply failed to stretch enough before fighting, and the twists at speed, combined with the shock impacts from hitting them (ok, usually their shields or swords with which they were blocking), and possibly even the hip shots I took added up to sore muscles in the lower back.

You can be certain that I won't armour up again till I have had several days with no pain/discomfort in that area, *and* I will do lots of stretching before fighting, and I will lower my ego enough to either get help carrying the armour box, or open it up and carry part of it (like gambeson and helm) separately. I also intend to do more back-strengthen exercises, over and above my daily yoga and situps etc.

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Date: 2012-08-13 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzambrose.livejournal.com
After several years of working with my female squire Vesta I came belatedly to a couple of realizations about teaching women to fight. The one that most clearly bears on your problem is that women's hips tend to lock at about 10 degrees away from the optimum angle for a 'good' shot in SCA combat. If, that is, they are modeling a male fighter's footwork. To free your hips and let your sword hand 'break the plane', you need to square up slightly compared to a guy. Set your back foot outwards 3-6'' from where a guy would set it, then use your butt, quad, and gut muscles to power the blow. This requires women to alter their shield work a little, and that problem will be more acute for a lefty.
I hope this helps.

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Date: 2012-08-13 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kareina.livejournal.com
It might, I will play with it when the back is feeling normal. But while I have your attention--one of our local fighters reminds me of my memories of seeing you fight--he doesn't hold still. He has a center grip shield, and sword, both held in front of him, and his arms are doing small circles (or other motions) constantly while he moves his feet too. Something about the constant motion flusters me, and I can't seem to get a shot past him. What is the best approach to cope with this style and get past his guard to hit him, without getting hit myself.

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Date: 2012-08-13 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliskimo.livejournal.com
What is a Frostheim Imperator set? I think you put a link in above, but I can't seem to get it to work.
Thanks.

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Date: 2012-08-13 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kareina.livejournal.com
weird, the link shows up, but can't click it now, either. The address is http://frostheim.se/imperator/

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Date: 2012-08-13 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzambrose.livejournal.com
It's kind of tough to advise long distance like this, but I'll try. I recently found out what the other knights in this area tell new fighters when they are fighting me: "Don't let Ambrose throw a second blow." So if the fellow in question throws blows in long sequences like I frequently do, then you should interrupt that sequence in any (legal) way you can. Easiest perhaps is to 'strike to cover' on his first blow, changing the angle of his return and then, if possible, strike again at whatever void appears in his guard as a result.
As far as being flustered by the constant motion, I recommend that you change the nature of the dance: 1. Ignore the shield and his footwork, they can't kill you. Watch the sword hand, it tells you where the weapon is going. 2. Change the angle of the fight. Move towards the sword side, cut, move towards the shield side, cut. 3. Move towards the sword side, then immediately step toward the sword hand. (This is counter-intuitive and requires what Fiore dei Liberi would call 'fortitudo'.) If he allows you to close that way, he must move his sword up and behind him, striking from there, or drop it low and use his point. Strike while he is preparing one or the other of these responses; A left hander's wrap to the kidneys can be particularly effective if you throw it while his sword hand is pressed against your shield.
Does that make any sense? If not I can try again.
BTW, if you please you could check out my essay here on LJ: "Four by Four", which is my first attempt to codify what I know about swordplay. I invite comments from practitioners at any level on that 'work in progress'.

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Date: 2012-08-18 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kareina.livejournal.com
Thanks! Now I just need to heal up enough to get back into armour (note: hopefully I am smart enough to first feel better, then slowly add in strengthening exercises and slow work, and *then* get back into armour), and then try to A) remember it and B) Apply it (that will be the harder of the two, I think.

I do recall reading that essay when I first found you here, and appreciated it. I should go back and read it again. Do you have it "tagged" for easy finding?

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Date: 2012-08-20 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzambrose.livejournal.com
The most recent version is now tagged as '4x4'.

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