I'm sure there are some unplesant people in the Greens. One must be realistic. However my view of the SCA was based on more than one or two unpleasant individuals. I think this comes back to something we've discussed before. You have a lifetime of wide SCA experiences, mostly positive, and I have only experienced Ynys Fawr, where I found a culture of cronyism, hypocracy and falsehood. It wasn't just "one or two gossips" it was the entire clique-controlled culture - a culture which accepts any kind of bad behaviour as long as it emanates from the "right" people. My time is better spent elsewhere. It was only a game, and there's heaps of other more important things I can do with my time. But I am glad I met you there and that you taught me so much. If everyone else shared your attitude of sincere generosity of spirit and warm desire for friendhsip, I'd still be an active member.